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Joe Kaplan

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. inexpensive, lightweight, easy to setup and teardown). I'm not too concerned about pristine sound quality, and so far the latency they introduce has not been an issue. 

What I've done so far has worked so well that I'm interested in scaling it.

I'm running into a couple issues with that.

The number of speakers I can connect seems to max out at 3. When I connect the 4th bluetooth speaker the third one disconnects. The 

 says "The official Bluetooth specifications say seven is the maximum number of Bluetooth devices that can be connected to your Mac at once. 

However, three to four devices is a practical limit, depending on the types of devices used."

Does anybody have any insight into what the limiting factor is here? Or how I could expand it? I thought maybe if I add additional Bluetooth USB dongles I might get more bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to change the behaviour. My macbook doesn't seem to be utilizing the additional Bluetooth interfaces.

 instead of the onboard bluetooth controller, but the command didn't seem to have any effect.

I'm curious if anybody has ever tried to do something like this, or has any insight into the technical limitations. I can imagine plugging in a USB hub with 6 usb bluetooth dongles attached and being able to connect 15-20 bluetooth speakers, and then creating an aggregate device so I can use Max to send sound to each of them independently.

It'd be fun to make this work with cheap bluetooth speakers instead of having to spend $$$$++ on a gigantic audio interface and wireless setup.

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. inexpensive, lightweight, easy to setup and teardown).  I'm not too concerned about pristine sound quality, and so far the latency they introduce has not been an issue. 


The number of speakers I can connect seems to max out at 3.  When I connect the 4th bluetooth speaker the third one disconnects.  The  Apple Support Page says "The official Bluetooth specifications say seven is the maximum number of Bluetooth devices that can be connected to your Mac at once. 
 However, three to four devices is a practical limit, depending on the types of devices used."


Does anybody have any insight into what the limiting factor is here?  Or how I could expand it?  I thought maybe if I add additional Bluetooth USB dongles I might get more bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to change the behaviour.  My macbook doesn't seem to be utilizing the additional Bluetooth interfaces.

I tried forcing OS X to use the dongle instead of the onboard bluetooth controller, but the command didn't seem to have any effect.

I'm curious if anybody has ever tried to do something like this, or has any insight into the technical limitations.  I can imagine plugging in a USB hub with 6 usb bluetooth dongles attached and being able to connect 15-20 bluetooth speakers, and then creating an aggregate device so I can use Max to send sound to each of them independently. 

I've been playing with bluetooth speakers as a cheap way make spatialized sound in a popup installation (i.e. 

connecting-10-bluetooth-speakers-to-a-macbook-at-once

Connecting 10+ bluetooth speakers to a macbook at once?

Florian Schuster

since a month I work on a MacBook Pro 16" M1 Max, which worked flawlessly up until a few days ago, when working with Max got increasingly slow.

The fps in resource hungry jitter patches are still fine, but when creating objects, typing in numbers and all that stuff there seems to be a serious "display lag". I.e. when drawing a slider or turning a dial by mouse, the function itself remains prompt and fine, but sometimes it takes seconds for the slider to visually follow my mouse-movement.

Also opening Max takes a lot longer than it used to, very often when opening the reference sidebar I get the "spinning rainbow wheel" for at least a second etc.

Everything else apart of Max, editing software, photoshop etc works fine, so I wonder where this behavior comes from. I didn't change anything about the MacBook apart of a minor Update in Monterey (now 12.2.1), but these problems already startet before that.

Did anyone have the same problem or know anything about it?

since a month I work on a MacBook Pro 16" M1 Max, which worked flawlessly up until a few days ago, when working with Max got increasingly slow.
The fps in resource hungry jitter patches are still fine, but when creating objects, typing in numbers and all that stuff there seems to be a serious "display lag". I.e. when drawing a slider or turning a dial by mouse, the function itself remains prompt and fine, but sometimes it takes seconds for the slider to visually follow my mouse-movement.
Also opening Max takes a lot longer than it used to, very often when opening the reference sidebar I get the "spinning rainbow wheel" for at least a second etc.

I'm on Max 8.2.2.

Did anyone have the same problem or know anything about it?


Hello!
since a month I work on a MacBook Pro 16" M1 Max, which worked flawlessly up until a few days ago, when working with Max got increasi

max-increasingly-slow-on-apple-m1-macbook-pro

Max increasingly slow on Apple M1 MacBook Pro

lazy circuit

I have Monome Grid 64 and I connected it to max msp.

I want to switch presets in my patch, using "Preset" object by pressing buttons on Grid64. Please tell me how to do this?

 They use the "matrixctrl" object. How can I do the same thing but with a Preset?

Hi all.

I have Monome Grid 64 and I connected it to max msp.

I want to switch presets in my patch, using "Preset" object by pressing...

switch-presets-using-monome-grid

Switch Presets using Monome Grid

Pierre Alexandre Tremblay

I've bought a Xbos wireless controller as it was said to work wired too - which is sadly not true. Bluetooth during gigs is not an option, let's not derail this thread :)

I bought it because I'm looking for a high resolution double-joystick that works with HI. The old macally I have has large dead zone and not really great resolution...

any experienced user here having a pointer to help?

hello all
I've bought a Xbos wireless controller as it was said to work wired too - which is sadly not true. 

high-resolution-wired-gamepad-on-macos

Sorry, unfortunately, with newer versions of Mac OS and Apple Silicon, I haven't found any other way to use the XBox controllers wired.

My current favorite wired controller on Mac is the PS 5 Dualsense controller. The joysticks and triggers are definitely not as high resolution as the xbox controllers (8bit instead of 16bit), but you might be able to low pass filter the data stream to get higher interpolated values as you move them which might be enough for your needs.

And unlike the xbox controllers the dualsense also has gyro, accelerometers, and a multitouch pad for additional gestural control, which can be useful.

Thanks for the quick reply! The Macally has 8 bit, and in this case (even with lag that I modulate) it is still too jittery (hommage intended :) ) - those neural net mapping can be subtle beasts...

I wonder if there is a gaming site that could compare wired usb dual joystick resolution - one would think that the gaming world must be as geek as us if not more with their pro gamers and such... although maybe 8-bit is enough for them. Audio has always been very discreminatory...

ok with a bit of love, this driver works!
https://github.com/noah-nuebling/mac-gamepad-driver
now, one needs to compile and sign but hey... nothing impossible.

high resolution wired gamepad on macos

derf07

My question concerns the codes that are attached to the messages. Are these patch codes?

max-patcher-1

These are patches (usually copy compressed). Copy that , open Max and choose from the file menu "new from clipboard"


I use Max for Live 8.5.5 in Ableton Live 11
hello. Thank you.
This is the problem.  When I use the "new from clipboard" command, a dark window opens; it contains the code. Do you need to have purchased the full version of Max?



I have attached to the code the beginning of the code and the end of the code.
If I select the File menu option, "New from clipboard", a dark window appears. We read the code there. On the other hand, I don't know how to find a MAX code from a text.If a moderator comes across my message, please tell me how to do it.

Max patcher

volkmar

I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would be great to be able to integrate it into my Max workflow, too.

Searching the net didn't turn up the finished abstractions I had dared to hope for.

But, before setting out to building this myself and not really believing that nobody ever tried to use this controller with Max (not just by MIDI mapping in the patch), I wanted to ask, if someone out there has started or even finished this project and would be willing to share his or her insights.

Hi everyone,
I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would be great to be able to integrate it into my Max workflow, too.
Searching the net didn't turn up the finished abstractions I had dared to hope for.
But, before setting out to building this myself and not really believing that nobody ever tried to use this controller with Max (not just by MIDI mapping in the patch), I wanted to ask, if someone out there has started or even finished this project and would be willing to share his or her insights.
Best,
Volkmar


Hi everyone,
I just got my hand on an Icon Platform M+ controller. Since it works really well for me in DAWs like Reaper and Live, it would 

icon-platform-m-abstraction


the mackie hui and mackie control protocols are simple, but as far as i know you would need to have a max external specific for the usb driver of the icon in order to "get in touch".

anyone knows more?



I'm interested in this too. Just got one for a project and while I'm sure using it as a controller will be easy, I'm imagining two-way control with the faders will be less so. I'll be doing my own investigations and will share anything I can find, but if anyone else has already done this work, please let us know!

This is what I ended up building.
Seems to work well and might be a good start..


Wow! Nice work! I already just now worked out all I needed (in case anyone else is paying attention), that it's simply a matter of using bendin and bendout on channels 1-9 to communicate both ways with the faders (and this can be changed to CCs if preferred in the software), but this complete implementation will I'm sure come in handy. Thanks!

Icon Platform M+ abstraction?

Andrew Blanton

I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use [udpreceive] I get the error 'OSC Bad message name string.' As far as I know, bvh is nothing close to OSC formatting. I also tried udpreceive with the CNMAT flag, that shows up as full packets, but I believe that's just placing a wrapper around my incoming bvh. Is there a good way to view this data in max?

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I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use  [udpreceive]  I  get the error 'OSC Bad message name string.' As far as I know, bvh is nothing close to OSC formatting. I also  tried udpreceive  with the CNMAT flag, that shows up as full packets, but I believe that's just placing a wrapper around my incoming bvh. Is there a good way to view this data in max?

Hi All,
I'm bringing mocap data into max from a neuron mocap system. Their software broadcasts bvh data via UDP on port 7002. If I use  [udp

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